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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=948142608-15072010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>SC</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=948142608-15072010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>So that sounds good... i am using AIR though because the
MUT doesnt do anything it gets stuck.... So i am using AIR and 90 for noise
reduction because i heard that's what you have to use for siemens machines....
also affine. tri linear interpolation and standard derivation. So im just
changing the affine and the 90 noise reduction. The images look ok... bu then
again i cant compare it to the MUT because i cant use it. SC, dont you find it
troublesome that when you draw the ROIS in ROIeditor, the roi selected isnt
really what the selection ends up to be? I mean When you are selecting your
pixels and then choose to add as an object, the object you make is not exactly
what you had chosen. Is there anyway to fix this? i tried reducing the pencil
diameter or doing a fill in the roi and then adding but it always looks kinda
crappy... it's still better than picking the ROIS from dtistudio though... I
also heard that you can edit your rois importing the images from Dtistudio into
ImageJ but i dont know how to do this. Maybe i would try it because in there you
can import the anatomy sequences to draw your rois on top of
them.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=948142608-15072010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>anyway, any input in any of these inquiries would be
helpful!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=948142608-15072010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>best regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=948142608-15072010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Salvador</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org
[mailto:mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org] <B>Im Auftrag von
</B>[Seongjin]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 14. Juli 2010 14:47<BR><B>An:</B>
DTI Studio, ROI Editor, DiffeoMap Questions/Support<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re:
[Mristudio-users] crash when saving ROI's<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Salvador,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>What I know about difference between AIR and Mutual info based
(MUT) registration, AIR is somewhat sensitive to noise level and has more
options to be determined. What I heard from developer group about the noise
level in AIR is that the noise level should be determined by empirical way. And
it has more options for fitting methods. But which one works better, you should
decide after a couple of trial and errors.
<DIV>MUT has less option to be determined by user. MUT is based on information
entropy maximization as far as I know. It is one of the good registration
methods. But I have no idea about which one is better between AIR or MUT. I
prefer to use MUT because less user options, which means it is more automatic.
At least, I don't need to play with it to find a proper noise level for
AIR. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Best,</DIV>
<DIV>-SC<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Castaneda, Salvador
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:salvador.castaneda@med.uni-tuebingen.de">salvador.castaneda@med.uni-tuebingen.de</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>SC</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Sorry
again, Do you know if there is such a big difference between the mutual image
registration and the automatic. And what exactly does this do just improve the
quality of the image all together or what?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>thanks in
advanced</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Salvador
Castaneda</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> <A
href="mailto:mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org"
target=_blank>mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org"
target=_blank>mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org</A>] <B>Im Auftrag von
</B>Castaneda, Salvador<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 14. Juli 2010 12:14
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<DIV class=h5><BR><B>An:</B> DTI Studio, ROI Editor,DiffeoMap
Questions/Support<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [Mristudio-users] crash when saving
ROI's<BR></DIV></DIV></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>SC</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thats
exactly what i do, i take the image files from dtistudio and load them in the
roi editor. i wanted to upload an anatomical picture to better draw y rois
because i work with rats. is it possible to dothis even if the matrix and fov
are not the same?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> <A
href="mailto:mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org"
target=_blank>mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org"
target=_blank>mristudio-users-bounces@mristudio.org</A>] <B>Im Auftrag von
</B>[Seongjin]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 14. Juli 2010 01:45<BR><B>An:</B>
DTI Studio, ROI Editor, DiffeoMap Questions/Support<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re:
[Mristudio-users] crash when saving ROI's<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Darren,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I experienced the similar problem. I wanted to use ROI drawn in
ROI panel but it did not work at all. ROI saving and loading functions seem to
work in FIBER panel, but not in the ROI panel.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>If you want to use ROI for DTI metrics such as FA or ADC measurements, I
recommend ROIeditor (a companion tool to DTIstudio). That is more
powerful. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I always process data in DTI studio. Then load all the processed data
into ROI editor. </DIV>
<DIV>Finally, do the measurement with ROI editor. </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The saved ROIs can be reused in the DTI studio for fiber tracking.
However, again, the ROIs could not be used in ROI panel of the DTI studio on
my computers (home computer, laptop, and office computer). </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I hope this experience might be a bit of help for your problem in using
DTI studio.<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>-SC<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Darren Gitelman <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:d-gitelman@northwestern.edu"
target=_blank>d-gitelman@northwestern.edu</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi<BR><BR>I
am having problems with DTI studio crashing when trying to save ROI's.
<BR><BR>This happens after I draw an ROI and click the save button. Then a
dialog (ROI File Format) comes up giving a choice of different formats. I
choose Graphic Compatible (default). After clicking OK, a crash window comes
up a few seconds later. It is labeled MriView3D MFC application. The only
technical information I can find is the following.<BR><BR>AppName:
dtistudio-latest-x86.exe AppVer:
1.0.0.1 ModName: msvcr80.dll<BR>ModVer:
8.0.50727.4053 Offset: 00014458<BR><BR>This occurs
whether I have drawn 1 or more ROIs. (fixed size ROI, oval).<BR>The size of
the ROI does not matter (4 voxel or 10 voxel)<BR>It occurs with DTI studio
x86 and x64. <BR>It occurs with versions 3.0.2 and 2.4.1 of DTIstudio.<BR>It
occurs whether I have a complete dataset loaded 35 directions, or even if I
load just 1 image and draw an ROI on it.<BR>It occurs on an HP core duo 2
system running Windows XP SP3, and on a redhat linux KVM virtual machine
running windows XP x64.<BR>Reinstalling vcredist_x86 or vcredist_x64 from
the DTIstudio website does not help on any of the systems.<BR><BR>Any
suggestions on how to fix?<BR><FONT
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