[Mristudio-users] Difference in DTI metric values between different versions of DTI studio

Rajagopalan, Venkateswaran rajagov2 at ccf.org
Sun Sep 19 15:48:53 EDT 2010


Thanks very much Dr.Mori, When I unchecked the automatic outlier option (in both the versions and reran) the results are the same between the two versions, so the difference was contributed by the different automatic rejection algorithms.
 
Thanks again
 
Venkat

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From: mristudio-users-bounces at mristudio.org on behalf of susumu mori
Sent: Fri 9/17/2010 10:18 PM
To: DTI Studio, ROI Editor, DiffeoMap Questions/Support; Hangyi Jiang
Subject: Re: [Mristudio-users] Difference in DTI metric values between different versions of DTI studio


Thank you for letting us know this. 
If you just subtract the two FA maps (or RA maps) by using RoiEditor (without tracking), do you get significant difference? The algorithms of automated rejection are not same between the two versions. If your data has some motion problems and many slices were rejected, it is possible that two different algorithms rejected the different number of slices. You can check which slices were rejected.

I would recommend you to use the regular tensor calculation without slice rejection and make sure the results are the same. If so, the difference should come from the rejection scheme.


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Rajagopalan, Venkateswaran <rajagov2 at ccf.org> wrote:


	Dear All,
	 
	I am surpirsed to find that DTI metrics (for instance RA metric) between DTIstudio_3.0_ beta version and DTIstudio_latest which i downloaded recently were very much different.
	 
	Same options were used like automatic outlier rejection of images >3% also the same CST ROI was superimposed in both the DTI studio beta version and in DTIstudio latest
	 
	 
	RA values along CST using DTIstudio_3.0_ beta version 
	 
	    Slice  #_Of_Fibers   Max_Val   Min_Val  Mean_Val   Std_Dev   
	    9:     1        0.50        0.50        0.50        0.00       1      1      1        1.00        0.00 
	   10:    61        0.79        0.43        0.69        0.10      10     23      1        7.60        7.41 
	   11:    60        0.85        0.18        0.74        0.14      13     25      1       10.62        8.91 
	   12:    61        0.89        0.34        0.76        0.13      12     30      1       11.42        9.25 
	   13:    61        0.95        0.27        0.75        0.15      11     28      1       12.64        9.83 
	   14:    61        0.74        0.39        0.59        0.10       9     39      1       15.22       12.58 
	   15:    61        0.74        0.32        0.57        0.10      10     45      1       14.40       14.19 
	   16:    60        0.72        0.32        0.56        0.08       9     35      1       11.00       11.85 
	   17:    61        0.68        0.47        0.61        0.06       8     37      2       16.13       12.19 
	   18:    60        0.64        0.57        0.63        0.02       9     39      1       12.22       12.44 
	   19:    61        0.61        0.52        0.59        0.02       9     37      1       15.11       10.87 
	   20:    60        0.45        0.34        0.41        0.03      12     36      1       13.50       11.56 
	   21:    61        0.37        0.20        0.30        0.04      16     42      1       12.94       13.91 
	   22:    60        0.35        0.19        0.28        0.03  
	 
	RA values along CST using DTIstudio_latest
	 
	   Slice  #_Of_Fibers   Max_Val   Min_Val  Mean_Val   Std_Dev  
	 
	    9:     1        0.97        0.97        0.97        0.00       1      1      1        1.00        0.00 
	   10:    61        1.04        0.47        0.90        0.19      10     23      1        7.60        7.41 
	   11:    60        1.16        0.11        0.93        0.19      13     25      1       10.62        8.91 
	   12:    61        1.05        0.42        0.89        0.14      12     30      1       11.42        9.25 
	   13:    61        1.13        0.25        0.87        0.14      11     28      1       12.64        9.83 
	   14:    61        0.89        0.48        0.70        0.10       9     39      1       15.22       12.58 
	   15:    61        0.87        0.27        0.65        0.13      10     45      1       14.40       14.19 
	   16:    60        0.79        0.27        0.62        0.10       9     35      1       11.00       11.85 
	   17:    61        0.80        0.47        0.68        0.10       8     37      2       16.13       12.19 
	   18:    60        0.75        0.58        0.64        0.05       9     39      1       12.22       12.44 
	   19:    61        0.70        0.53        0.65        0.04       9     37      1       15.11       10.87 
	   20:    60        0.52        0.36        0.46        0.05      12     36      1       13.50       11.56 
	   21:    61        0.43        0.21        0.32        0.04      16     42      1       12.94       13.91 
	   22:    60        0.40        0.19        0.28        0.04  
	 
	What am i doing wrong here. Same DTI data was used in both the versions and the processing steps were identical.
	 
	Thanks
	 
	Venkat
	 
	 
	 

	

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